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  • The Great Attractor and what it might mean in an Astrology Chart

    The Great Attractor and what it might mean in an Astrology Chart

    This post was originally published on September 2, 2021. As time has gone on (and my understanding of deep space astrology has deepened) I have learned more about how to possibly incorporate this deep space anomaly into reading an astrology chart. Rather than doing a whole new post on the Great Attractor, I figured I would bring together the old post with the new stuff that I’ve learned. Also, as of September 2024 there IS a questionnaire on the Great Attractor, the Shapley Attractor, and the Dipole Repeller. If you want to be a part of the research (volunteer as tribute 🤣) shoot an email to ellie@saturnseason.com and I’ll get you the questionnaire!

    Where is the Great Attractor located? Currently it’s at 14° 17′ Sagittarius.

    **Here is a video that I did about the Great Attractor in September 2021 if you’re more of a watcher than a reader. These videos from July 2023 are about the Shapley Attractor and the Dipole Repeller (which is what opposes Shapley in space). There is also a recent post written about the Shapley Attractor that can be found here.
    **If you would like for me to read your astrology chart, click this to set something up**

    *********** Blog Post from 2021 Starts Below ***********
    Lately I’ve been getting some messages on reddit (and even emails from previous clients) asking me about the Great Attractor – wanting to know if I will ever be discussing/diving into this, or if I was even aware of this anomaly in space in the first place. Since it has come up enough, I figured I would do a post about this since I am aware of this and it IS on my radar (I have just been too preoccupied with clients and the GC to really dive in). I am absolutely delighted that so many of you all are aware of the Great Attractor too ^_^

    So…..what is the Great Attractor? It is supposedly the gravitational pull point in the Laniakea Supercluster (a “meta-galaxy”/collection of superclusters of galaxies in which our own galaxy is a part of). It is considered an anomaly because the Great Attractor functions like a black hole (it warps time, space, and light), but unlike a black hole it has no event horizon (so it doesn’t fit the standard definition OF a black hole). The Great Attractor appears to be pulling different super clusters of galaxies towards it, and scientists believe that our own galaxy supercluster is also being pulled towards it. The GA is also thought to be made up of “dark energy.” The definition of dark energy is “anything that is, in effect, an intrinsic property of space. That has a constant energy density regardless of the dimensions of the volume under consideration. Thus, unlike ordinary matter it is not diluted by the expansion of space.” Dark energy is thought to be the reason that the universe is accelerating in its rate of expansion (though no one seems like they are 100% sure about this). Dark doesn’t mean literally dark (or bad/negative), but “mysterious” and “unknown,” and unknown it is – while it is thought to make up a whole bunch of space, scientists still aren’t real sure what the fuck dark energy is.

    Same thing could be said about the GA – scientists KNOW there is something there pulling these different superclusters towards it, but they aren’t real sure how to classify the GA. To make it even more difficult to understand, the GA happens to fall in the zone of avoidance (which means it isn’t easy to see it with visible light wavelengths due to being blocked by the Milky Way’s galactic plane). The only way that it has been observed is with X-rays (though the area of space where they think the GA is located happens to be in an area where the Norma Cluster of galaxies is located). So, lol, that’s fucking weird. If this is actually like a black hole, shouldn’t it be “sucking” up the Norma Cluster?

    Why does any of this matter? I like to look at the science behind this deep space shit to try to apply it to an astrology chart. Here are some thoughts that I have about the GA and how it might function in a natal chart. While the GA can be pulled in anyone’s chart, I do think it probably has the most impact in the lives of people who have conjunctions to the GA (planets, Chiron, the Nodes, cardinal points, etc.).
    -Even if scientists aren’t sure WHAT the GA is or HOW the GA functions, it does seem to be some kind of force that pulls things to it. This makes me think that the GA in a natal chart functions in a similar way – acting as an attracting force. Is this for the good of the person, or to the person’s detriment? I’m a little on the fence about this particular notion. I feel like this could really go either way.
    -Since the GA happens to be in the Zone of Avoidance in the sky, I feel like this can probably be translated down to the natal chart, too. The person may not be as clear about what the GA attracts into their life (or even what they can consciously attract when they are able to SEE/FEEL the GA in their own charts and how it functions).
    -A planet conjunct the GA (or cardinal point, Chiron, etc.) may attract things into the native’s life dealing with whatever planet (et.al) is involved in the conjunction. This person may not have as much conscious control of what they attract in this regard. However, I have this idea that when the person is consciously aware of what they attract, they are probably able to attract exactly what they want to them (this probably takes a lot of self-control and self-awareness).
    -I have mentioned before that the Galactic Center might function like an antenna, picking up shit from the GC and even shooting stuff back out from the antenna. I think the GA might function in a similar way (but it DOES feel different than the GC, even if they both have the feeling of having this antenna). I’ll have to sit with this part a little longer to figure out exactly HOW to articulate the difference, lol.

    How can you pull the Great Attractor in your own chart? Go to astro.com and go to the “extended chart selection” after creating an account. Go down to where it says “additional objects” towards the bottom, and click on the list of “fixed stars.” Go down the list, and once you get to the G’s, look for something labeled “Great Attractor, GA.” Click on that option and then pull your chart.

    There is something else here to mention….something that kind of “ups the ante” of the GA, and this something called the Shapley Attractor. Scientists have proposed that the Shapley Attractor might be stronger than the Great Attractor, and that the Shapley Attractor MIGHT be the “collaboration” between the Shapley Supercluster and the Great Attractor coming together to create a whole new attractor. I have NO idea how to pull this in the chart (but I’m looking into it, lol).

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    First of all, it really blows my fucking mind that the original blog post on the Great Attractor was written over 3 years ago (currently it’s September 2024). Time goes so, so fast. Even though we are 3 years out from when I wrote the original post, my train of thought on the Great Attractor is still similar. There are some things that I would like to add on to what I was included in the original post. Before I get into that though, I am now looking at conjunctions within 7° applying with and separating from the Great Attractor at (currently) 14° Sagittarius (and this is where I am focused on the questionnaire). If you have planets conjunct the GA within that window of orb and want to be a part of the research, please reach out and I’ll get you the questionnaire. What I’m adding to the original article (in the text below) comes from people sharing their experiences with me via email (even without a formal questionnaire existing until now people love to share their experiences) from conversations I’ve had with clients in readings about planets, etc. conjunct the GA, and based on my own study of this deep space anomaly.

    1. In the original post I mentioned that the Great Attractor could act as an attracting force in an astrology chart (causing the native to pull or attract things to them). The comment was also made that I was on the fence (in 2021) as to if this was to the native’s benefit or detriment. Really, as of September 2024, I do think of the Great Attractor as a more “benevolent” force (or that the things attracted do tend to be for the native’s benefit overall). As a disclaimer, that doesn’t mean that the Great Attractor will ALWAYS function in “positive” ways (this is not universal by any means).
    -I also think that this attraction and pull is ALWAYS happening whether the person is aware of it or not. It seems to me that this attraction and pull could be even more beneficial for the native when they are aware that they have this kind of pull in the first place.
    -The pull/attraction with the GA also appears to be the kind of pull where once the attraction and pulling begins, it can be really hard to turn it off or take it back. This is another reason it seems important to know what pull and attracting are happening to begin with, so the wheels of attraction that are set in motion are actually ones that the person wants to consciously set in motion in the first place. Even then, because once these wheels seem to start turning they are hard to turn off, it’s a good idea for the GA person to triple check with themselves that what they are wanting to attract is ACTUALLY what they want.

    2. People with Great Attractor conjunctions in their chart seem to be people that are looked to for answers about things. This seems to be the case even if the native doesn’t see themselves in the same knowing-capacity (and it can be very confusing when the person isn’t aware of the planet, etc. conjunct the GA exerting this influence). For instance, if someone has Venus conjunct the GA, they might find that to other people they are seen as all-knowing in regards to things Venus wants to express (things like love, harmony, relationships, values, etc.), and they might also find that other people seek out the Venus conjunct GA person for answers about Venusian questions. This doesn’t mean that the Venus conjunct GA native sees themselves in this same way; on the contrary, the native might not see themselves as proficient on Venusian topics at all. Even if they don’t think they have the answers to Venusian sorts of questions….they usually do (and they can usually offer some good insights, advice, or answers about such things).

    3. The Great Attractor seems to be less “polarizing” than the Galactic Center (and the Galactic Grand Cross) seems to be. Some of this is probably because there doesn’t appear to be anything opposite the Great Attractor (so there isn’t an opposition to cause any polarity in the first place). Normally this lack of opposition would bother me (and I would be like a dog with a fucking bone trying to figure out WHAT opposes it). In this case it doesn’t bother me because one theory within the scientific community about the Great Attractor is that it’s actually part of the Shapley Attractor/Supercluster (and the Shapley Attractor DOES have the Dipole Repeller in opposition). Bringing this down to the astrology chart, the person with conjunctions to the GA seems to not be seen as polarizing (or that specific part of their chart is not seen as polarizing). For instance, Venusian thoughts and expressions by the person with Venus conjunct the GA might be seen as not at all polarizing by other people. This could be because the native really doesn’t approach Venus notions in a polarizing way (which is absolutely possible). Or it could be because another person just doesn’t SEE the Venus conjunct GA person as being polarizing.

    4. The above brings me to my last point – the person with something conjunct the Great Attractor seems to have something about them that causes other people to SEE what they WANT/NEED to see in the person regarding the planet, etc. conjunct the GA (this is another reason why these people may come off as not polarizing regarding to the planet, etc. conjunct the GA, especially if the person on the outside WANTS/NEEDS to view the GA person as non-polarizing). This isn’t the GA person making themselves seem a different way than they are, but more about how they are received by other people (there doesn’t appear to be the manipulation or malice involved on the part of the GA person). Now, this can be a beneficial thing for the GA person or not beneficial at all; it really depends on what is WANTED/NEEDED to be seen in the GA person by someone else. Regardless of what other people want/need to see in the GA person, it’s most important that the planet conjunct GA person sees themselves (and that planet conjunct the GA) clearly and without a filter.


  • The Shapley Attractor and how to read it in an astrology chart

    The Shapley Attractor and how to read it in an astrology chart

    A little over a year ago I did a video on the Shapley Attractor but never made an “astrological ramblings” post about it (I have tried to make more time for writing recently and it feels SO GOOD to be doing this again). Why do this post now? Well, there has been an influx of people reaching out over the summer about different Galactic conjunctions they have in their charts, and conjunctions to Shapley (and the Great Attractor) have been brought up a whole bunch. Since Shapley and the Great Attractor aren’t actually ON the Galactic Grand Cross questionnaire, I think some people have wondered if I have done any research on them at all. In answer to that question…yes, yes I have (eventually the Great Attractor, Shapley, and even the Dipole Repeller need to be added to the current questionnaire or a new one needs to be created). 
    **Side note: If anyone wants to be a part of the Galactic Center/Galactic Grand Cross research, shoot me an email or leave a comment on this post and I’ll get you the questionnaire ^_^



    What is the Shapley Attractor? It’s a deep space anomaly (an even bigger anomaly than the Great Attractor!) that functions kind of like a black hole but isn’t a black hole. As far as I know (in 2024 as I’m writing this) scientists aren’t really sure what the hell Shapley actually is. What science does seem to know is that Shapley appears to be pulling things towards it (like the Great Attractor does, but Shapley does this in a more extreme way), and that it appears to be within (or near) the Shapley Supercluster. The Shapley Attractor is pulling a BUNCH of different galaxies towards it due to its high density and gravitational pull.  
    -There is a line of thought that brings the Great Attractor and Shapley together, viewing the Shapley Attractor as a composite of the Shapley Supercluster and the Great Attractor. There is line of thought that the Great Attractor is being pulled TOWARDS the Shapley Attractor instead of functioning with Shapley. There is another line of thought that the Great Attractor and the Shapley Attractor have no correlation with one another (they are just, essentially, two attractor anomalies in the sky that happen to function in a similar way but that’s it). No one really seems to know anything definitively one way or the other as of September 2024
    -Like the Great Attractor, the Shapley Attractor is lying behind the Zone of Avoidance meaning that it’s very hard to see (like the GA) with visible light wavelengths. 
    -Shapley Supercluster/Concentration is pulling itself together instead of expanding with the universe (and pulling other galaxies towards it in the process). 


    The Shapley Attractor can be found at 2° Scorpio (I’m not sure how to pull this in a natal chart, you will just need to eyeball it – in the chart above I have a yellow star where Shapley would be found if it could be pulled). In my research on this so far, I’ve been focused on conjunctions between planets, angles, etc. in the chart. While a large orb, I’ve been looking at conjunctions 7° applying with and separating from Shapley as being influenced and pulled. So, essentially, any planets, angles, etc. that you may have from 25° Libra to 9° Scorpio would be within Shapley’s grasp. Obviously, the closer the planet, angle, etc. is to 2° Scorpio, the more of a pull Shapley will have on it (and the more it will be influenced by Shapley). 

    So…..like….what the fuck can one DO with Shapley in an astrology chart? How can one read it in a chart and bring it down to Earth? I definitely have some thoughts on what Shapley could indicate alongside any planets, etc. that happen to be conjunct.

    Shapley is an attractor like the Great Attractor (GA), which means any planets, angles, etc. that happen to be conjunct EITHER of these will ATTRACT people, places, things, and situations towards it. Also like the GA, Shapley is in the “Zone of Avoidance” which is an area of space that can’t be seen with visible light waves. Even if the GA & Shapley can’t be seen with visible light waves, though, they both still exist. This makes me think that planets, etc. conjunct Shapley (and the GA) are always attracting something towards it…. even if the person isn’t conscious of this attracting that happens as it is happening. This right here makes me think that people with conjunctions to Shapley need to be VERY aware of what they attract into their lives via the planet, angle, etc. that is conjunct Shapley. It does seem to me that the attraction that occurs with Shapley (as with the GA) tends to have an affinity for the planet, angle, etc. that happens to be conjunct Shapley (or the GA). 
    **For instance (using my chart as an example), I have Mars conjunct Shapley within 2°. This means that I need to be very aware of the kind of Mars people, places, things, and situations that I pull into my life. I’m going to PULL this stuff into my life no matter what, so I need to make sure that I’m only pulling to me the highest vibration of Mars in Scorpio energy. 
    …..and THAT’S the challenging part, pulling in the highest vibration of Mars in Scorpio energy (or the highest vibrational energy of whatever planet, angle, etc. happens to be conjunct Shapley). 

    Shapley does feel like it’s more challenging than the Great Attractor; this has been gleaned from my own personal experience, client experience, family/friend experience, and of people who have wanted to share with me their personal experience with Shapley even though there isn’t an official questionnaire about it yet. There are a couple of reasons why I think this is the case:
    1. Shapley happens to be along Via Combusta (also known as the “Fiery Way” and the “Burning Way” from 15° Libra to 15° Scorpio). Since olden times (lol) this part of the chart is thought to bring “bad luck” to any planets, angles, etc. that happen to fall there because of all the difficult fixed stars in the area.  I’m not sure how much traditional astrologers actually work with this antiquated idea in a natal chart in present day, but due to the fixed star thing it IS used in horary astrology/event astrology (seeing a planet along Via Combusta, especially the Moon, in a horary chart/event chart can signal some fuckery and/or difficult shit afoot). 
    2. Scorpio energy is SO extreme and intense, and Shapley happens to be in the sign of Scorpio. This in and of itself makes me think of Shapley functioning in a more challenging way than the Great Attractor. 
    **That’s not to say that the Great Attractor can’t be challenging though (it definitely CAN be). While Sagittarius energy can definitely function in “big” and “extra” kinds of ways, it often lacks the extremity of Scorpio energy. 


    Because Scorpio energy is SO extreme (this is one of the ways that it can function), it seems to me that WHATEVER is attracted via Shapley is going to be attracted in an extreme way. All planets, etc. in the chart have a higher vibrational and lower vibrational way that they can function (what they want to express). In saying that, it IS possible to pull the highest vibrational energy of the planet, etc. conjunct Shapley into one’s life (the “positive” extreme), but more often than not (not universally….but often) it seems that people pull in the the lowest vibrational energy (the “negative” extreme) of the planet, etc. conjunct Shapley in the form of people, places, things and situations. Attraction of the lowest vibrational energy of the planet, etc. appears to happen for a couple of reasons:
    1. The person is expressing what the planet, etc. conjunct Shapley wants to express in an extremely low vibrational way (this may or may not be a conscious choice). Should this be the case, the person could come face to face with people, places, things, and situations that are also expressing the lower vibration of that planetary (etc.) energy. The point of this seems to be to show the person how they are and, ideally, how they don’t want to be.
    2. The person isn’t expressing what the planet, etc. conjunct Shapley wants to express AT ALL in the first place (again, this may or may not be a conscious choice). Should the person come face to face to with people, places, things, and situations expressing the lowest vibration of what the planet (etc.) conjunct Shapley wants to express, it seems that it is to get the person to WAKE UP to their own planet conjunct Shapley (or to WAKE that planet up). Should this person have their planet “woken up” in this way, they want to not stoop to the lowest vibrational level of the planet, etc. Instead, it seems important that they go a different way, a higher vibrational way, with that planetary, etc. energy.

    When the highest vibration of the planet, etc. is expressed through the planet conjunct Shapley, it seems that the person is able to pull in the VERY BEST of the planetary energy in an extreme way in regards to people, places, things and situations (extremity doesn’t have to be “bad”). My advice? Get to know any planet, angle, etc. conjunct Shapley in your chart as best as you can. If you need help with this, you can have me read for you (click here for this).