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An Astrological Perspective on the August 3, 2019 Shooting in El Paso, Texas

I want to start this blog post off by saying how deeply sorry I am to everyone involved in this absolutely tragic event (bar the perpetrator, fuck that guy). I am sorry for the people who lost their lives and for those who lost loved ones, and for the victims who lived through this at the Wal-Mart and are recovering and healing both physically and mentally the best they can. I am also deeply sorry to the residents of El Paso, and the fact that this event had the capacity to make y’all feel a little less safe in your typically safe city. As a fellow Texan, my heart breaks with you and I hope that each and every one of you is able to heal, in as complete a manner as you can, in your own time.

And honestly, I’m fucking pissed off about the whole thing as well. I imagine a lot of people are. It’s my being pissed off about the whole thing that has made me look into not only the possible astrological reasons for the senseless violence that occurred on August 3, 2019, but also into violence as a whole within the United States. Like, why (us) Americans have such big dicks for violence of all kinds…. and come on, you know it’s true, collectively we seem to get off on it. (The US and any possible astrological correlations with violence will be explored in another blog post another time…for now I will be focused just on El Paso.) I also want to make a note here that I am in no way trying to say that astrological transits are the absolute cause of what took place here in El Paso (or any sort of mass causality situation), there are many, many factors to consider. I am simply offering alternative possible answers for something absolutely horrific at a time that people are searching for answers and explanations… even IF those answers and explanations are a little different and out of the box than what is usually taken into consideration for such (clearly I’m searching for answers, too, which lead me to write this post and think about all of this in the first place). Transits to the Natal Chart (and yes! Physical locations can have natal charts) have the ability to show certain energies and events that MAY manifest in real life (becoming activated) provided certain conditions are met. These primary conditions would be different depending upon what person or place we were talking about. Some of what I call “Primary Conditions” for the City of El Paso are listed below:
-1. First of these conditions for the city of El Paso in this particular case would be all the issues with immigration and a lot of people feeling very passionately “for or against” in regards to this issue. I realize that this is a gross oversimplification of the issue here, for so much more goes into it than just being for or against immigration, but also HOW people should be able to come into the United States, who we should “allow” in, under what circumstances, etc.
2. Another condition is El Paso being a border city with plenty of Mexican Citizens crossing to and from Mexico and the US in everyday life.
3. Another condition is HOW people in the US respond to people from other cultures. Are other cultures respected and welcomed, or are they feared and shunned as being “less-than” specifically in regards to our neighbors in/from Mexico and Latin America, since the entire immigration issue seems to focus primarily on those south of the border.
4. Something else to mention here that could be considered a condition is the fact that we currently have a Democratic Contender for the Democratic Party Nomination for President who hails from El Paso (Beto O’Rourke).
**While I’m not personally sure that this particular condition is what I would consider a primary condition, I do believe that the fucker who caused all this pain & suffering probably didn’t mind this fact at all and probably thought of it as “killing two birds with one stone”…. especially if his own political beliefs end up lining up the way they currently appear.**
Essentially, I see plenty of conditions here that could cause something tragic like this to take place (and there are, of course, more than what I mentioned to consider). If conditions are met for the person (or place) of the natal chart, the energy of different Transiting Planets could cause something to occur in real life, for the good or the bad. In the case of El Paso, it was unequivocally something bad.

This is the Natal Chart for the City of El Paso, with the transiting planets for the day of August 3, 2019 on the outside of the Natal Chart.
*Circled in PURPLE you will find Transit Uranus, Natal Mars & Natal Mars
*Circled in RED you will find Transit Saturn, the Natal Vertex & Natal Pluto
*Circled in BLUE you will find Transit Pluto & Natal Saturn

As far as these Transits go, there is something that sticks out to me immediately from a retrospective point of view: Transit Uranus in the 6th House in Taurus. Now, on it’s own (not looking through a retrospective lens) this placement wouldn’t necessarily stick out THAT strongly since anyone or anyplace with their 6th House ruled by Taurus will currently have Transit Uranus there. While in the 6th house, Uranus is wanting to change/will change something about mundane daily life and the way this functions, and in the case of here it will do just that….. changing something about the way that this city LIVES and FUNCTIONS in daily life, along with the health and well-being of the city as a whole (both the physical and mental health of the city). Uranus is all about anything shocking and unexpected, and even though this shocking change was a bad thing in this particular case, it doesn’t ALWAYS mean something negative (just depends on what the Transits are doing in the Natal Chart). It may not be just one change or shocking thing either, but possibly several (and I believe this to be very possible here). These changes may not always be of the most comfortable variety since the 6th House is ruled by Taurus (which finds comfort in routine, in stability, and in security). Having it so closely in the conjunction aspect with the Natal Moon though? That to me speaks volumes. Transit Uranus @ 6 Taurus 35 in the 6th House is conjunct the Natal Moon @ 8 Taurus 35 (which is pretty tight…..not exact, but tight). This Transit shows that the way that this city emotionally functions will be changed, and the sense of security here will be challenged. These people that live there felt safe and secure in their everyday life overall, and Transit Uranus came in and completely shook up any safety and security of the emotional variety that the residents thought/felt that they had. During this transit, the residents of El Paso will probably be collectively oscillating between several different emotions (and those emotions will probably range from everything from being really fucking angry, to being really fucking sad, to being happy….though that happiness will probably come later on during the transit for most). Basically, just a whole range of emotions will be collectively felt by this city, and the important thing here is that everyone feels validated in their feelings and emotions, and everyone has a way of expressing what they need to express, when they need to express it. The more validated the people of this city feel by one another and by the country as a whole, the “easier” this entire Transit will play out.
**This range of emotions would’ve probably been present even if the shooting never occurred. The shooting, though, gives these emotions an outlet of sorts, something to channel all of these different emotions towards collectively.**

In the Natal Chart, the Moon in the 6th is also square Mars in Leo (in Interception) in the 9th. Now, normally this aspect could indicate a person or place that maybe can’t hold their temper very well (popping off at anything and everything it perceives as a threat or hurtful). However, since Mars is in Interception, I have to actually wonder if this city and the people who live there as a collective embrace these emotions enough, and fight back/get pissed off enough when they should. I have a feeling that a lot of the city as a whole is tired of being used as a fear mongering tactic for the “right” as a “scary” place filled with scary illegals who are given safe haven and free shit, which they will then use to then rape and pillage Americans, and steal their jobs… or so the “story” seems to go. At the very least, a lot of the people here probably want to be known for things outside of the immigration issue solely (such as the very safe community that the city has managed to build for its self, among other feats). It appears to me that there is probably some issue with how the city goes about expressing its irritation at this notion and this could have to do with the fact that there probably are illegal immigrants residing there (I mean, duh, we’re in Texas, in a border state and we’re talking about a major border city). The city as a collective overall probably doesn’t want to put an unnecessary target on it or its residents backs (especially with the current political climate), or any more of a target, anyway. This city was willing (either consciously or unconsciously….probably unconsciously) to put up with being viewed a certain way by different subsets of the American public in order to maintain the security necessary to function in day to day life (for the collective to function this way).
………and now this security and stability probably feels fundamentally fucking rocked (which only makes sense). This is one of those “events” that happens where there is a “before the event”, and an “after the event” (or when people refer to this event 20 years down the line, they may refer to it with a things were one way before and things were one way after sort of mindset). While I have no doubt that the citizens of your city can band together and create the security and stability you once had again as part of the “after the event” of your story (and probably in an even better way than before), it won’t be done without really expressing just who and what your city and your residents are all about (the living out loud sort of expression that can only really be done in an in-your-face sort of way). And, this city and the population that lives there will need to be willing to get in touch with any anger that they have towards the way the Government as whole treats the city….and this could be towards the Federal Government or just the Texas Government (or both). Something tells me that this won’t be a problem; Transit Uranus is going to be square Natal Mars very soon, forcing/shocking Mars out of it “hiding” in Interception in Leo, making it much more likely to express itself, and ultimately getting your city and its people (all of its people) the respect you deserve. Just make sure that you all use the momentum and tension here to your benefit. While protests and things of that nature are a good thing, make sure that they stay positive and don’t devolve into even more chaos and negativity which would cause a lot of the country to not listen to you all the way that they should. Even if you all as group feel a little more emotionally out of control or all over the place at this time (and during this entire Transit), don’t actually come across this way. Get your emotions and anger out, just do it in as controlled a way as you collectively can. Use Transit Uranus’ energy here to come up with more visionary and out of the box ways to get intelligently get your point across.

There is also another Transit that stands out to me, which is Transit Saturn in the 2nd House in Capricorn opposite the Natal Vertex (almost exactly) and Natal Pluto in Cancer in the 8th house . Typically I don’t pay as much attention to Transiting outer planets to the outer Natal planets (the “outer” planets are Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto & Chiron), but in this case since the Vertex is involved and since Natal Saturn is also in opposition to Transit Pluto, it stuck out. Transit Saturn is all about teaching lessons and cleaning house. Since the Vertex is involved (with Transit Saturn being in conjunction with the Anti-Vertex), I have to wonder how surprising this shooting actually was? Let me re-phrase….of course it was shocking and surprising in the manner and time and place in which it occurred, but was the possibility of a mass causality event happening really that surprising in the case of your city? I would imagine that at least some residents of El Paso would answer “no” to this question not only because of this Transit, but also because of the “primary conditions” that I mentioned a few paragraphs up. The Anti-Vertex/Vertex Axis tends to show (in the most basic of definitions) things that are completely surprising that we wouldn’t have expected (the Vertex) and things that are still surprising but that we know are possible (the Anti-Vertex). So, Transit Saturn is acting as a catalyst here, teaching you all and your city that the security that you felt before this event may not have been completely realistic or sustainable in the long term, especially in regards to the Texas/Federal Government (and I bring these entities up since you also have Transit Saturn opposite Natal Pluto), and that there may be a “bit” (or more) of sparing between the two to be able to achieve this security long term in a way that works for everyone that lives here. Your city can, I would imagine, expect to sort of go head to head with state and federal government in a much bigger way than you have done in the past. These entities will probably try to take away even more of the security that your city and it’s residents need, and you all will want to dig your heels in and hold claim and authority over what collectively belongs to you all (your collective values as a city will also be challenged even more than usual at this time). Nothing wrong with digging in your heels, as long as it’s done intelligently. Show the powers that be that your way of doing things works for you all as a collective, and maybe even that your way is better. Also, which kind of goes hand in hand with the transit listed above, your city has Natal Saturn in the 8th in Cancer opposite Transit Pluto in Capricorn in the 2nd (and since Pluto is in retrograde, it’s going to fuck around some here, bouncing around until it turns direct). Don’t be surprised if the more direct Transit Pluto becomes with Natal Saturn, the more the Texas/federal government may try to keep money from you all that your city needs. This could be money/funds that were already promised or agreed upon for El Paso, but the more that your city expresses itself and goes against what these entities want, the more likely this is to come to pass.
……While the 2nd house tends to hold on to things while the 8th house needs to learn to let go, I feel like there WILL be a collective letting go and evolution, and this will come about from these two transits teaching your city the values and security of yours that are really worth keeping and evolving, and the ones to completely let go of (values that ultimately won’t help you all to rebuild and heal yourselves are the kinds of values I’m talking about, should any exist). I feel like there is also something to be said about growing into a new way that you all will collectively nurture one another, and this evolution may be hard with outside influences being difficult….but once you all have achieved this, I think it will probably be quite a beautiful thing to see.

Herein lies the opportunity though with these transits: You all have something very valid to be pissed off about here, and a chance to really be heard and have things go in your city’s favor. From a current presidential administration that treats many of the people that walk the streets of your city as “less than” (which is something I’m sure has pissed a lot of you all off for a long time), to the shooter seemingly spouting off the same sort of rhetoric heard throughout said administration (via Twitter and other bullshit) in a manifesto shortly before causing all of this pain and chaos (and appearing to believe in such)……there are definitely valid reasons for y’all to be fucking pissed off. And honestly, I would run with it. What matters here in this regard is HOW your city chooses to go about this. You all collectively need to make your feelings seen and heard in expansive and intelligent fashion, and luckily you all appear to have two fabulously capable people, each in their own way, to help you do this just this on a national stage (Beto O’Rourke & Veronica Escobar…..and I’m sure you all have other people as well, I just mention the people that I’ve seen in action on a national level). It WILL be very important to not become too emotionally erratic about the whole thing. While this whole process is a deeply emotional one (and you all as a collective have so many emotions going on right now), “cooler” heads and intelligence needs to prevail here to get your point across to the rest of the country in the most effective and long term sustainable way possible I feel like you all, your city, will be very instrumental in showing the US just how to handle the issue of immigration in general down the line, along with how to treat and view those who are “illegal” (since we are all but human after all), and be driven to take a much more vocal and self expressive stance than you all already seem to do. Fight back with out of the box thinking. Fight back with knowledge and guidance to the rest of the country. Fight back by continuing the drive you seem to have to bridge the divide. Fight back by being unabashedly you, city of El Paso, and the multi-cultural community that you are (and the unique experience of being in one country, but also functioning as a bridge to another). But please, fight back.

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Lilith (Part II) or: “Mama, they call her a bad girl, all because she wanted to be free.”

I always get asked questions about Lilith from clients. Not only that though, but I’m constantly seeing questions about Lilith on the different forums that I creep on & answer questions. “How does she effect my life?” “What does it mean to have Lilith in Libra in the 6th House?” “What does it mean that she’s in conjunction with my Midheaven?” “Does having Lilith in the 8th make me a fucked up bitch?” These are just a few examples of questions that I’ve either received myself or just seen posted different places. I think before you can really understand HOW Lilith effects your life by placement in the natal chart, it is important to not only understand who Lilith was, but also to make sure that you know which Lilith you’re talking about; the asteroid Lilith, Black Moon Lilith, TRUE Black Moon Lilith or Dark Moon Lilith. For the purposes of this blog post, I will be focusing primarily on Black Moon Lilith (circled in Red below). From my own chart, here is an example of what these look like in one’s chart.

Asteroid Lilith (circled in purple) in Leo the 9th House, Black Moon Lilith (circled in red) in the 8th House in Leo, True Black Moon Lilith (circled in pink) in Cancer in the 7th, and Dark Moon Lilith (circled in Green) in the 4th House in Aries.

Black Moon Lilith is what will usually come up for the “Lilith” option on a website like Astro.com. (If you happen to want to see where the other Lilith’s fall in your chart, Asteroid Lilith is h13, and Dark Moon Lilith/Waldemath’s Moon is h58.) So, if you use Astro.com at all to create charts, Black Moon Lilith is probably the version of Lilith that you are most familiar with. And this version, circled in Red in the above example, bring together the True and Mean versions of Lilith. Black Moon Lilith isn’t an actual object in the sky, but is the apogee of the Moon’s orbit…meaning this is the place in the Moon’s orbit that is furthest from the Earth. This sort of empty-void-hypothetical-point is a place where one can do “good” or do “bad.” They can take Lilith’s intuitive and psychic energy and use to it to connect to “the other side” (and connect that other side to themselves) in a positive way, or in a negative way.

As far as the story of Lilith goes, supposedly she was created from the earth to be the wife of Adam (at the same time as Adam), before Eve. Adam wanted Lilith to be submissive to him, specifically sexually, and wanted to fuck her with him on top, and only him on top. Lilith wasn’t having any of this bullshit; she wanted the relationship to be more equal in nature and wanted to fuck in various different positions. Adam didn’t like this (and I guess God didn’t like it much, either) because it is said that she either grew some wings and flew away from that paradise prison, or that she was cast out by God for being a disobedient bad girl towards Adam. Her job was to be Adam’s bitch, and she didn’t want to play ball. It is at this point, once she is either cast out of the Garden of Eden or chooses to leave on her own, that she turns to the darker side of things (such as hooking up with and fucking some demons and having demon babies which are then killed, turning into a snake, and actually killing children). Or so the mythology says depending on what version you read. Who really knows? I DO think she gets a bad rep though (she probably doesn’t usually mind this). While I believe her energy absolutely can manifest in more challenging ways in one’s natal chart (such as obsession and the “darker” sides of sex), I also believe that she can represent wild and uninhibited freedom and/or sexuality from oppression. This isn’t a bad thing for a person to embrace, it just depends on how it is embraced. She represents the sort of “nasty woman” energy (or whatever you want to call it) that more patriarchal societies don’t want to see in their countrywomen….and if they actually had their way, would probably try and do away with completely. But that’s another rant for another time.

*As far as how Black Moon Lilith expresses herself, you will find that below with an explanation of BML in Libra through Pisces. This is will only show the HOW of how she expresses herself through the sign in question. You will also need to look at the house your BML falls in to know WHERE/WHAT AREA OF LIFE she expresses herself through, as well as taking into account any aspects that she makes in your chart.*

Black Moon Lilith in Libra: BML is all about expressing herself wildly & independently, but in the sign of Libra, there could be some difficulty in merging these qualities with Libra’s need for balance, harmony, and partnerships. These people are very adapt at getting what they want through diplomatic means, but it usually isn’t just for the sake of diplomacy on it’s own and more self-serving (though she is good at hiding this). They can also out-charm just about anyone. In personal relationships, which are important to her here in Libra, sex can be all consuming in both thought and action, which can then make these partnerships feel a little lopsided. Being physically attractive (whatever that is to the person), feeling physically attractive, and presenting yourself a certain way are important to her here….but Lilith has more depth to her than this superficial shit and will eventually rebel against Libra if she isn’t allowed to express herself. Swinging the scales so far into the superficial realms to try and keep Lilith under control will only backfire here. She needs to be able to really express herself, and through partnerships this is extremely important. Acknowledge your darker side and desires, learn to make piece with them (and not just tolerate them), so it doesn’t come busting out, causing a bunch of disharmony and strife. The way that this manifests in her life will depend on the house that Lilith falls in along with aspects that she makes.

Black Moon Lilith in Scorpio: BML here in Scorpio needs to be able to express her sexuality (which may or may not be of the different and/or “darker” sort of variety, but it is definitely “heavy”), along with being able to transcend, evolve, and have deep emotional experiences. Sex is important to her here, but she will fully embrace this side of herself recognizing that it is just a natural part of who she is. Having intense emotional experiences are also important to Lilith here; she will take things/her feelings to extremes (to the limit) in order to have these intense and deep experiences. What type of experiences she’s driven to have here will be better understood by house placement and any aspects she makes. She will be driven towards the taboo and the intense, though some of the things she gets herself into may not always be the healthiest or safest situations (especially on the more extreme ends of this spectrum). There are also themes of power and control that she wants to transcend beyond, but this may prove difficult. This power and control could have to do with her needing to hold on to her own power tightly, or having power and control over others (especially sexually/in relationships). She may also have the tendency to attract others that operate the same way (which may or may not be a good thing). You will need to learn to let go of some of that need for control. Besides all of that, there is something sort of magical about this placement, with the person having the natural inclination towards “magic” (however you want to think of that). In this placement, it really is a toss up as to how she will use to her powers.

Black Moon Lilith in Sagittarius: BML in Sagittarius needs to be able to roam, expand her mind, and to explore in a wild and uninhibited way. She also needs to be allowed to BELIEVE in things in the same way (and to have something to believe in). The issue here is WHAT is chosen as a belief here and treated as dogma. This one has the ability to become quite rigid in their personal dogma once they have formulated it, and this could be anything of the philosophical/spiritual/metaphysical variety (and may actively expand on this belief even if it has been flat out disproven). Actually, it could even be the complete absence of any sort of belief in anything that could also be the case here, such as someone who doesn’t believe in the “rule of law” and just goes around breaking the law for shits and giggles (and I bring up the concept of “law” specifically since Sagittarius does naturally rule over this). As far as sex goes, this one wants to have a good time and expand on these carnal delights and probably doesn’t think that too much is “right” or “wrong” in this regard (this one tends not to be repressed sexually, unless their personal dogma goes against sex in some way….which….it usually doesn’t). Really, you can think of her as Dr. Goodtimes, but sometimes these “goodtimes” can be taken to excess, or be a detriment to her and/or other people. Freedom is a big deal with her here in Sagittarius, and the less personal freedom that she feels she has to explore, to expand, and to roam, the more likely the negative traits will come out to play. How she will express herself in Sagittarius will, of course, have a lot to do with everything else going on in the chart.

Black Moon Lilith in Capricorn: BML in Capricorn really has a firm grasp on her own sense of authority and actually does need this to function well. Some might even use the term “cold hard bitch” to describe this placement, for this one doesn’t play games (she’s not really a cold hard bitch, but she does play one on TV). She’s actually more emotional than she would ever really let on, but somewhere along her life she learns that it’s for the best that you push your emotions to the side in the more public spheres of life. Maybe she was fucked around one too many times in this regard and/or taken advantage of. So she learned to adjust and really lean in to her own sense of personal authority. While this placement can actually go really far in life, this aspect can also become a sort of autocrat wanting absolute dominion over all of her subjects. How she chooses to use this personal authority will depend on the house that she falls in and the aspects that are made. As far as sex goes, what goes on here in this regard could be completely restricted, such as she feels like there are better and more important things to focus on than fucking for fun (or for any reason). It’s this very sexual repression that could swing her in direction of the more autocratic ways of wielding authority. If she isn’t sexually repressed, she’s probably more of a dominant type. Hand Lilith here a whip (or ties, chains, etc)…she’ll easily know what to do.

Black Moon Lilith in Aquarius: BML in Aquarius has always seemed sort of awkward to me. While she isn’t repressed in regards to her sexuality, she doesn’t tend to do the “feeling” thing as well on a personal level, and can come off as more mechanical in nature. Sex for her may be to specifically try out something new or bizarre, for the sake of the new and the bizarre. Sex is also probably a fluid thing, and since Aquarius is more androgynous by nature, she probably is more likely than some other BML placements to not care as much about the sex/gender of the people she bones. She will probably have some pretty far out and electric hopes and wishes, forcing her to either stay more inside her head and watch them play out, or actually try and bring these to fruition in real life. If she chooses the later path, she can end up being a revolutionary of sorts in her own right. If she ends up down this path, she could end up with people following her lead (even if she didn’t ask to be put in this position). What matters is how she handles all of this, which would be shown by taking the entire chart into consideration. Does she use her electric mind to tap into the collective conscious in a positive way, or in a negative way (something this placement has the ability to do very well, with Aquarius being rather psychic itself and very in-tune with the collective consciousness)? Does the detachment from emotion and fluidity that she may feel sexually help or hinder her cause? Only the rest of the chart can tell.

Black Moon Lilith in Pisces: BML is Pisces is kind of like the “dream weaver;” she has big dreams and really has the ability to get caught up in these dreams. As long as what she’s dreaming of is of the positive variety, this uninhibited ability to reach for the stars can serve her very well in allowing her to make her own dreams come true. The downside here tends to deal with the unrealistic nature of some of these dreams, and even the ability to con herself and/or con other people, sort of playing the role of “lord of illusions.” She can spin a very good tale for other people if she needs too, and for her to help herself make it through the day. Help making it through the day is another thing that speaks here, since Lilith in Pisces may find the world too hard and ugly to deal with on a day to day basis. This could lead her down a path towards trying to escape this ugliness with proclivities towards addictions (and this could be any sort of addiction, but specifically those of the substance variety). Sex could also end up being a sort of escape for her, but sex for the sake of escape will leave her feeling empty and even more self-sacrificing. She needs to turn all of her intuition (this placement is highly intuitive) towards actually helping others in the physical reality and not just spinning them stories that are nothing more than illusions. She really shines here when she allows herself do this. The different ways that this placement could manifest would, again, depend on house placement and aspects made.

Lilith (Part I) or: “Mama, they call her a bad girl, all because she wanted to be free.”

I always get asked questions about Lilith from clients. Not only that though, but I’m constantly seeing questions about Lilith on the different forums that I creep on & answer questions. “How does she effect my life?” “What does it mean to have Lilith in Libra in the 6th House?” “What does it mean that she’s in conjunction with my Midheaven?” “Does having Lilith in the 8th make me a fucked up bitch?” These are just a few examples of questions that I’ve either received myself or just seen posted different places. I think before you can really understand HOW Lilith effects your life by placement in the natal chart, it is important to not only understand who Lilith was, but also to make sure that you know which Lilith you’re talking about; the asteroid Lilith, Black Moon Lilith, TRUE Black Moon Lilith or Dark Moon Lilith. For the purposes of this blog post, I will be focusing primarily on Black Moon Lilith (circled in Red below). From my own chart, here is an example of what these look like in one’s chart.

Asteroid Lilith (circled in purple) in Leo the 9th House, Black Moon Lilith (circled in red) in the 8th House in Leo, True Black Moon Lilith (circled in pink) in Cancer in the 7th, and Dark Moon Lilith (circled in Green) in the 4th House in Aries.

Black Moon Lilith is what will usually come up for the “Lilith” option on a website like Astro.com. (If you happen to want to see where the other Lilith’s fall in your chart, Asteroid Lilith is h13, and Dark Moon Lilith/Waldemath’s Moon is h58.) So, if you use Astro.com at all to create charts, Black Moon Lilith is probably the version of Lilith that you are most familiar with. And this version, circled in Red in the above example, bring together the True and Mean versions of Lilith. Black Moon Lilith isn’t an actual object in the sky, but is the apogee of the Moon’s orbit…meaning this is the place in the Moon’s orbit that is furthest from the Earth. This sort of empty-void-hypothetical-point is a place where one can do “good” or do “bad.” They can take Lilith’s intuitive and psychic energy and use to it to connect to “the other side” (and connect that other side to themselves) in a positive way, or in a negative way.

As far as the story of Lilith goes, supposedly she was created from the earth to be the wife of Adam (at the same time as Adam), before Eve. Adam wanted Lilith to be submissive to him, specifically sexually, and wanted to fuck her with him on top, and only him on top. Lilith wasn’t having any of this bullshit; she wanted the relationship to be more equal in nature and wanted to fuck in various different positions. Adam didn’t like this (and I guess God didn’t like it much, either) because it is said that she either grew some wings and flew away from that paradise prison, or that she was cast out by God for being a disobedient bad girl towards Adam. Her job was to be Adam’s bitch, and she didn’t want to play ball. It is at this point, once she is either cast out of the Garden of Eden or chooses to leave on her own, that she turns to the darker side of things (such as hooking up with and fucking some demons and having demon babies which are then killed, turning into a snake, and actually killing children). Or so the mythology says depending on what version you read. Who really knows? I DO think she gets a bad rep though (she probably doesn’t usually mind this). While I believe her energy absolutely can manifest in more challenging ways in one’s natal chart (such as obsession and the “darker” sides of sex), I also believe that she can represent wild and uninhibited freedom and/or sexuality from oppression. This isn’t a bad thing for a person to embrace, it just depends on how it is embraced. She represents the sort of “nasty woman” energy (or whatever you want to call it) that more patriarchal societies don’t want to see in their countrywomen….and if they actually had their way, would probably try and do away with completely. But that’s another rant for another time.

*As far as how Black Moon Lilith expresses herself, you will find that below with an explanation of BML in Aries through Virgo. This is will only show the HOW of how she expresses herself through the sign in question. You will also need to look at the house your BML falls in to know WHERE/WHAT AREA OF LIFE she expresses herself through, as well as taking into account any aspects that she makes in your chart.*

Black Moon Lilith in Aries: BML in Aries is very impulsive and all about expressing her knee jerk reactions. She can get quite “heated” about things that she cares passionately about, as well as about things that really piss her off. She gives plenty of drive here to the person, just depends on how this drive is utilized; does it manifest in a positive & passionate way, or does it come about with the need to dominate over certain areas of one’s life? Depending on other factors (such as house placements and any aspects that are made to BML), she could enhance your instincts in a positive way, or a negative way….instincts play a part regardless of how they manifest. Also, depending on the other factors involved, she could really drive you towards the sexy-time side of things (such as being very driven to get some, like, all the time), or she could drive you towards focusing on other things completely (not really driven towards sexy time at all). And if you are driven more towards the side that wants sex all the time, it’s probably of the more primal, physical, and even aggressive variety. To have her show up more positively, give her the independence that she needs to thrive. Just try to guide this independence into constructive or positive outlets.

Black Moon Lilith in Taurus: This is actually one of the most “natural” placements for BML, for she was created of the earth (and Taurus exhibits the female sort of earth energy in way that Capricorn and Virgo feel restricted). BML in Taurus is all about wanting to quench her desires in the 5 physical senses, and completely for herself. She is sensual, earthy, and usually quite desirable to both the same sex and the opposite sex alike. She is all about pleasure, and leisure, and really wants to manifest these in her life, and will probably go to great lengths to obtain them. She really is pretty much the ideal lover in this sense. Not having those creature comforts in her life will bring out her darker side, as will any sort of insecurity in her own self worth, and that dark side deals with possessiveness and not easily letting go of things she holds on to. She is very possessive of what is “hers” (and this can absolutely include her partner) and can also attract people to her that feel the same of her in turn. Depending on other aspects would show how she may come about in one’s life, and how to keep the possessiveness in check. Being very connected to Mother Earth in some way really stands out here, and just feels right. She needs this to function properly and positively.

Black Moon Lilith in Gemini: BML in Gemini wants (excuse me, needs) to be mentally free, and able to explore all of her different curiosities. She will easily rebel if she feels that she can’t engage her mind in this fashion, and it would probably make her feel quite anxious and “heavy”. Because we’re talking about Gemini there is a polarizing effect, oscillating between extremes . This will come out in her curiosities (and what she is actually curious about and how this effects her will be based on house location and aspects). Some of the things she will be naturally curious about will make her mind soar to new heights, and in some cases it will be like curiosity killing the cat. As far as sexuality goes, Lilith here usually has no problem trying on a variety of different partners for size to see what fits, or for the experience of it all. She might even be down for group sort of sexual activities here (no judgment if so, you do you, girl/boy). The less freedom that she feels in her own mind, or should she become more bogged down with gossip/petty shit that really doesn’t matter, the more this placement will take a negative turn.

Black Moon Lilith in Cancer: BML in Cancer is placement where she doesn’t always feel at ease. Cancer is all about feeling safe & secure, while Lilith kind of throws caution to the wind. The feeling of unease will possibly be even more prominent than in, say, Virgo, because Cancer also rules over the deepest parts of one’s conscious mind (making Cancer very privately aware of BML’s energy). BML is also very, very intuitive in Cancer, which can be used for one’s benefit. You will feel a strong need to care and nurture other people, which is fine, just make sure that this is something that you actually want to be engaged in and not something that you feel you have to do (or that you’re doing it for the “wrong” reasons). Regardless of this, you will feel a strong protectiveness towards your family & your home, but you may also feel a strong urge for freedom & independence from them as well (so the dynamic can feel off, or uneasy). The aspects and house placement in one’s chart will tell more of her story here and how work with her instead of against her. Also, sexuality here can become so private that Cancer may not allow themselves to embrace their own sexuality (especially if it’s of the kinkier variety) even behind locked doors. If this happens to be suppressed for too long, it can cause Lilith to bust at the seams and come out in real life at inappropriate times. And if this happens to be the case, this almost secrecy about sexuality, it was probably instilled in childhood somehow, someway.

Black Moon Lilith in Leo: BML in Leo needs to be able to express herself and her energy authentically and creatively. She is also very glamorous, sparkly (albeit in a slightly “darker” way), and absolutely full of charisma. She has the ability to really captivate/mesmerize her her audience and is probably able to do this with great ease. The issue of sexuality here is something that probably won’t be as difficult for one to embrace, depending on where Lilith lives in one’s chart. BML in Leo is desirable to the same & opposite sex, and this placement probably gets off somewhat on knowing this and embracing this sort of sexuality out loud. The only catch to all of this that sounds so good? The reasons behind of all of them (meaning you will want to look at house placement and aspects, for sure). Is the charisma she exudes in Leo used for manipulation purposes to the detriment of someone else, or is the Charisma actually a natural part of her authentic self? Is the openness of her sexuality something that is really part of who she is, or does she use it as a way to keep from getting hurt? Is the healthy & vivacious ego that she presents here actually real, or is it seriously super-inflated into narcissism territory? Or is the outward ego just a mask she wears because she has no firm grasp on her true self? Getting to the bottom of authenticity is super important here.

Black Moon Lilith in Virgo: BML in Virgo isn’t always the most comfortable place for her to find herself. She wants to be wild and uninhibited, and Virgo’s energy will kind of try to repress everything that BML wants to do. She wants to be wild and free, but Virgo tries to bring the reins in on her. She wants to be able to fully and freely express her sexuality, but she is held back. Virgo is rather nervous by nature, and having such a sexual sign that pretty much represents everything that Virgo is not, will make Virgo, well, nervous. Virgo doesn’t like to do anything useless, and any natural sort of embracing of Lilith here will be done through a vehicle of helping, serving, or healing. Sex here can feel like work, sex can feel like having to serve someone else, or hell, some type of sex work could even be in the cards here. You’re thinking, “what” right? Virgo does need to be of service to others, which is why I bring up work in sex the industry (Virgo making Lilith useful). Since Virgo also deals with unequal sorts of relationships, it will have to come to terms with it’s own views on the Madonna/Whore archetypes, and know that by letting Lilith come out to play in a healthy way doesn’t automatically swing you in “impure” direction. It is important that Lilith is embraced here, for I feel like it could case the native a whole host of physical & mental issues otherwise.

The Eighth House or: “The Bridge Between the Conscious & Unconscious Mind.”

The 8th House is a place that frequently gets brought up by people on forums, and I personally get a lot of clients asking questions about this particular house. What is it about this house that makes people so curious? What makes this house so intensely questioned, yet so misunderstood? I believe that this has a lot to do with the “unknown” quality of this house, since much of this house isn’t openly known or understood by the native. Above everything else that the 8th House represents, I find it to be representative of a bridge between the deep conscious (the 4th House) and the unconscious (the 12th house). The energy of the sign that sits on the 8th house tends to be on this 8th house bridge….not completely under a fog like it would be if it were in the 12th house, but somehow removed from the native. You probably use the energy in a more passive fashion, and this energy is waiting for the native to jump on that bridge to consciously claim it/them as their own in an active way. The same could be said for any planets and their energy that are found residing in this house. Until you claim these energies consciously for yourself, you may difficulty knowing when/where/how/why to use the energy in the first place.

The 8th House is traditionally said to rule over the areas of life dealing with sex and death. I personally disagree with this, only because it is so simplistic. Sex is involved with this house, but it isn’t the sort of sex that is fun or light, but the soulful merging with another person that tends to happen during sex when you really love someone and you can feel your souls becoming one while being intimate together. This sort of merging tends not to happen with just “anyone.” Also, the deep and soulful merging with another person that this house rules over doesn’t have to use sex as it’s only vehicle. There are other ways that you can deeply and soulfully merge with another person, such as being in a deep state of meditation with your “other,” spiritual experiences, hallucinogens (hahah, just kidding….kind of), etc. My point here is that the merging of souls is actually what matters here, not the actual sex part. Sex is just one way to achieve this state of deep and soulful merging that the soul of a person does need. And honestly, sex is probably the most understood way of achieving this soul merging on this planet, in this dimension (where we have physical bodies to keep our soul’s separate from those of other people). Other dimensions and other places probably have better ways to describe exactly what the merging of souls really is, probably because in other dimensions and other places there is no physical shell to keep one another so distant. Death is another area of life that gets lumped in with this house (and is a real pet peeve of mine). For me, physical death has always been better represented by the 4th House/the IC, especially with the IC being thought of as the “beginning and the end” of the natal chart (which is how I personally think of it). However, the 8th house absolutely does represent death and then rebirth (or transformation) in this particular incarnation. When a person transforms beyond what they have been into something new, and all that they could be, in this lifetime.

Transformation is absolutely a major theme of this house, as has been indicated in the above paragraphs. The sign’s energy that rules this house wants you to transform and actively embrace it’s energy, claiming it as your own. This house also wants all the planets that are found there (if any) to be claimed by the native and used as transport for evolving into a “higher” (and more spiritual) state of being. Depending on the chart of the person in question, the soulful merging that I mentioned above may not even have to do with another person at all, but may actually have to do with merging the parts of themselves that they actively claim from other areas of their chart with the energy of this house that is on that 8th house bridge. By merging these parts of yourself, you would end up engaging in that deep and soulful merging that the soul craves (and probably in the most important way…by feeling more complete in yourself).

Fears and learning to let go (and actually being able to let go) are also massive things that this house deals with. Until you fully embrace the sign’s energy that rules the 8th house cusp (and any planetary energy there) there may be a lot of fear dealing with the energy that the sign (and planets) represent. And the fear is there because you don’t fully know when/how/where/why to use that energy. For instance, someone with Cancer on the 8th house cusp may have some fears dealing with becoming a mother/parent (or just feeling uncomfortable with this notion). They may also have fears or issues with actually showing all the care and nurturing that Cancer typically wants to show. As another example, lets take someone with Capricorn ruling their 8th house cusp. This person may have issues and fears with fully understanding their own authority/being authoritative (or just authority in general), as well as having fears about maintaining stability (possibly feeling decently unstable at times) and having fears about persevering through & against all odds. There could also be some real fears with the concept of “transformation” in general, since Capricorn tends not to “do” change as well as other signs. Letting go of things (and learning to let go of things) is also something that this house absolutely rules over. On the opposite end of the axis, you have the 2nd house, and the 2nd house’s goal is to acquire as much as it can in the physical world. It want’s to acquire money (that it makes itself), values & self-worth (that are their own), and above all else, stability & security. The 8th House really isn’t about any of those things. The 2nd teaches how to gain things, and the 8th teaches you how to let go of things and how to learn to live with “less.” Since the 8th house is a very spiritual place, less is necessary for transformations here to occur (without all the extra shit and noise that we acquire in the physical world). There is also usually some fear of letting go of operating in the way that we have always operated from this house before we step onto that 8th house bridge and claim that sign (and planetary) energy as our own.

As far as the idea that this house rules over other people’s money and other people’s values, I feel like this really only comes into play if the deep and soulful merging that is needed to be done by this house happens with another actual person. Since you would be so deeply enmeshed with the “other,” you would merge your values and your money (etc) with your other. However, I don’t believe that money is really the point of the this house at all. Yes, the house rules over banks, loans and inheritances, but still, money isn’t the point. The point is to learn to do with less (from the physical world). I’ve always believed that if money was involved with this house at all on an individual level, it would be for the benefit of self transformation, and possibly even somewhat karmic (whether a financial gain or a loss). This house does give and take away though (especially things of benefit in the physical world), and if money were to be misused or abused, I imagine you would have to learn to do with “less” (financially) in this area of life.

Houses in Interception

I find houses in interception to be particularly interesting when I find them in a client’s natal chart. Some astrologers disregard the idea of intercepted houses as unimportant….to each their own, everyone reads a little differently. I feel like when intercepted houses are in a client’s natal chart, to leave them out of a reading would be doing the client an injustice. Intercepted Houses are when a house is located between two separate house cusps, but the house and sign in question rule over no actual house cusp of the own. An example of this below:

An example from a client’s chart with Aquarius Intercepted in the 3rd House, and Leo Intercepted in the 9th House (along with their Mercury, Sun and Moon also in interception). Aquarius and Leo are circled in Purple ^_^

As you can see from the example above, Aquarius and Leo rule over no house cusps of their own. Aquarius falls under the domain of Capricorn’s house, and Leo falls under the domain of Cancer’s house. Neither sign has any real way of easily expressing itself outwardly to the world in a specific area of life (or just in general). The sign itself, as well as any planets that may find themselves inside the interceptions, operate under a sort of “fog,” kind of like the 12th house. You may not be fully aware of the sign and/or planetary energy that resides in the intercepted house, or there may be something kind of fucked about the way this energy manifests in your life. It also tends to be that the intercepted house’s energy (and any planets that find themselves in them) were not taught by the parents/caregivers in early childhood as something important to the native’s development (or was outright ignored or arrested). Some examples of what it can mean when planets find themselves in an intercepted house:
*The Sun-There may be some issues in fully understanding one’s own sense of self/ego/life force
*The Moon-The person may not fully understand their own emotional core (or even want to acknowledge it).
*Mercury-The person may have some difficulty in actually understanding their own mind and it could operate a little differently.
*Venus-There may be some issues with the person knowing how they need to give and recieve love, as well as knowing what/who they love in the first place
*Mars-The person’s drive, aggression and/or passion may be under a fog and not as easily accessible.
*Jupiter-The person may not feel that they can fully expand in the areas of life where the house in interception falls.
*Saturn-The person may have difficulty when it comes to taking on responsibility, as well as implementing structure in their own lives.
*Uranus-The person may have issues really hoping or wishing for things, as well as really being able to appreciate their own “specialness” or unique invidiuality.
*Neptune-Since Neptune makes things cloudy on it’s own, this placement would be ripe for causing the person to con-themselves in some way relating to the sign & house in question that it falls
*Pluto-The person may have some real issues with their own personal power and how to best use it (if they realize they have this personal power to begin with).
***Mind you, these are just examples of what it could mean when a planet is in an intercepted house. You would need to take the entire chart into account (especially the sign in interception that rules the planets as well as the house it falls in) to know exactly how having a planet intercepted would manifest in one’s life.***

And what does it mean to have the different signs in intercepted houses?
*If one has the Aries/Libra Axis in interception, this can cause the native problems/clouding with understanding themselves and the concept of the other, and with being able to understand the value of the balance between the two.
*If the Taurus/Scorpio Axis is intercepted, there can be some difficulties with really forming your own values and keeping them separate from other peoples. Also, there can be some issues in knowing when to hold on to something/someone, and when to let go (and how to do this).
*When the Gemini/Sagittarius Axis is intercepted, there are may be some issues with knowing when (or how or where) to use the “lower” mind as well as the “abstract” mind (and really trusting your abilities in these areas). There may be a sort of mistrust of the mind, and this may not be fully understood.
*If the Cancer/Capricorn Axis is in interception, there can be some issues with really being in tune with your public & private life (possibly not fully understanding them, and what you want and need in regards to them). You may also not be as not comfortable with the ideas of being caring/emotional (the Cancer part) and really coming into your own authority (the Capricorn part).
*When the Leo/Aquarius Axis is intercepted, your need to been seen and heard is clouded and hidden (the Leo part) which then causes you not to be able to embrace your unique individuality and really contribute something to the collective (the Aquarius part).
*If the Virgo/Pisces Axis is in interception, there can be problems with actually being able to function easily and be of proficient service in daily life. This can then lead to issues with actually being able to reach the dreams that you do have for yourself (possibly not knowing how to even go about this).
***Again, these are just examples of the Houses in Interception alone. You would need to take the entire chart into account to really get the full picture.***

When you have houses in interception (and if you have an intercepted house in your chart, you will also have another interception on the opposite side of the axis), it means that certain signs are also duplicated. In the above example, their 6th and 7th houses are ruled by Taurus, and their 12th and 1st houses are ruled by Scorpio. As you can imagine, this kind of throws the whole chart off balance because each sign needs to be able to openly express itself. It is important here to balance your chart by freeing these houses (and planets) from interception. And how do you do this, you may be wondering? Well, there are a few couple different ways. First, the person needs to become comfortable with the energy of the sign of the house cusp where the intercepted house falls. Using the picture above, my client would need to become intimately familiar with Capricorn’s energy as the 3rd House cusp ruler (and Uranus in the 3rd not in interception), as well as Cancer’s energy as the 9th House cusp ruler (and Venus in the 9th not in interception). Since the cusp ruler acts as a grantor or denier of access to the Intercepted Houses in question, the better the “terms” the person is on with those House cusp rulers (and the more they understand how that energy works in their life), the easier access they will have to the intercepted houses and to then pulling the houses from interception.

Another way to free the houses and planets from interception is look at where the ruler of the intercepted houses fall in the natal chart. In the example in the picture above, The Sun (the ruler of Leo) falls in the 9th House (in interception), and Uranus (the ruler of Aquarius) falls in the 3rd House (not in interception). When the ruler of an intercepted house falls IN an intercepted house, that particular planet won’t be of much help since it can’t fully express itself “properly.” In my client’s case above, they would want to to look at Uranus and the 3rd House (of which the 3rd House deals with communication and the mind, among other things) to pull the houses out of interception. I have found that only one house needs to be pulled out of interception and usually the other intercepted house follows suit.

What the hell orb should I use? And when? And why?

**I know this post deviates quite a bit from the out of bounds stuff I was talking about last week. I’m not through there at all, but the topic of orbs has come up many times on the forums that I creep on (and answer questions), and it struck me that this would make a good post.**

What is an orb exactly you may be asking? An orb is how close together planets are in aspect in a natal chart (or any kind of chart, really). Why are they important? The tighter the orb between two planets, the more that particular energy may manifest in the person’s life. Which ones to look at first? I generally like to look at the orbs between the aspects made by the luminaries and the chart ruler (ruler of the Ascendant) first. An example of an aspect’s orb from my own chart can be found in the pictures below. In the first picture, circled in purple, you can see the conjunction between Pluto and Mercury in Scorpio in the 11th at about a 5 degree or so orb. The second picture is of the different aspects in the chart. You will notice next to the little symbols in the boxes there is also a number. That number is the orb between the aspects.

In purple: Conjunction between Pluto and Mercury at a 5 degree or so orb in Scorpio in the 11th.
In Black: You can see where the Pluto and Mercury conjunction appears, with the orb “5”

Different astrologers have different ways of reading charts and reading the orbs made between planetary aspects. Some use a 10 degree orb across the board, and some use a slightly larger orb or slightly more narrow orb all the time. Some open that orb up somewhat for certain planets and narrow it some for others. I tend not to think anyone is wrong in this regard; it really all comes from personal experience and what just “feels” right to the astrologer. For me personally, it does depend on the feel of the entire chart somewhat, but I do have some “guidelines” that I generally follow. They are as follows (for a Natal Chart):

No.1 – I tend to go by the 10 degree orb rule for aspects between the planets, luminaries, and Chiron. This has just always felt right to me personally. Every once in a while I *may* open this orb just a touch if the luminaries are involved in some capacity, but then I will only usually open it to 12 degrees. Also, when I open this orb slightly, this part of the chart really needs to be “speaking” to me in someway, for some reason.
No.2-For aspects made to the North and South Nodes by the planets and Chiron, I really don’t like to go above a 5 or 6 degree orb. This is because the North and South Nodes aren’t even real celestial bodies but hypothetical points.
No.3– For asteroid aspects, regardless of what the asteroid is making an aspect with, I really like to keep these even tighter, usually in the 3 degree range (though depending on what planetary body is involved, this orb may end up widened to 4 or 5 degrees).
No.4-For me to count a fixed star aspect, regardless of what the fixed star is making an aspect with, these orbs have to be really fucking tight, like an orb 1 – 1 1/2 degrees (maybe 2 degrees if the connection seems really outstanding due to other factors in the chart). This is because fixed stars don’t move around and are always found in the same location in everyone’s chart. An example is Algol, which is always at 26 Taurus.
No.5-As far as orbs having to do with a Stellium (and what a Stellium is), I have another post on this for your reading pleasure.

I also have a few different guidelines for different types of charts, as you will see below:
**For Transit Charts, I do use the same guidelines for orbs listed above for the Natal Chart, but I use them slightly differently. For planet to planet connections, I use the 5 degrees before the transit planet becomes in exact aspect with the natal planet (ascending), and the 5 degrees after becoming exact (descending). For example, if you have your natal Moon at 20 Libra, transit Pluto would be considered to be in opposition anywhere from 15 to 25 Aries. And with the transits, the more exact the orb, the more the particular transit will be felt (usually).
**For Synastry Charts, I use the same ascending and descending orb mentioned above, but I really like synastry aspects to be a little tighter. I usually will only go to a 10 degree orb with the luminaries, around 7-8 degrees for the planets and Chiron, with the Nodes, Asteroids, and Fixed Stars remaining the same.
**For the Composite Chart (midpoint method), I really like to see even tighter aspects (since this chart is based off of the midpoints between both people’s charts). For the luminaries I usually try to keep it an 8 degree orb, and for the planets and Chiron I try to stay around a 5 or 6 degree orb. I like to keep the aspects made to the Nodes at 4 to 5 degrees. With fixed stars, I really want them between a 0 and 1 degree orb, and for asteroids, around 2 degrees is good with me.
**I tend to keep the aspect’s orbs the same as the Natal Chart ones when reading Draconic Charts…..since it is essentially a type of natal chart itself, just the chart of the soul across all incarnations (in this dimension, in this plane. I won’t go into what I mean about that right now. That’s another post for another day). For even more reading pleasure, here is my post on Draconic Charts.

Just thought I’d throw my own hat in the ring on this subject. What rules for orbs do you personally go by, and why?

The Moon Out of Bounds or: “Where the hell do you think you’re going?”

In the previous post about Out of Bounds planets, it was mentioned which planets go out of bounds, and which ones do not (so I won’t recap all of that here again). We’ll jump right in with the planet that gets out from under the Sun’s grasp the most often, which is of course the Moon. The time that this happens with the most frequency is every 18.6 years or so (when the North Node is at 0 degrees Aries), and the Moon gives a giant middle finger to the Sun’s gravitational pull, and does what it wants, how it wants, when it wants. Now, what does it look like when the Moon goes Out of Bounds you ask? And how does this manifest in a person’s life? Let’s take a look at what can happen.
**Keep in mind that the closer to the maximum declination of 28.5 degrees that the Moon finds itself, the more extreme the OOB Moon will be felt by the person and will come out to play in real life.**

When the Moon goes out of bounds, the person will absolutely feel it even if the OOB Moon isn’t as easily “seen” outwardly (though it usually is to some degree). Being out of bounds frees the Moon from any restriction and being “fenced in” that it might feel or face (from the sign that it falls under, the house that it resides in, and the aspects it makes), as well as from any outward restriction that society tries to impose. It also can cause the person to feel that they don’t quite belong here or anywhere, that they don’t quite fit in to societal norms, and some may actually feel that they are not actually of this planet/this dimension. Point blank, most all people that I’ve known with the Moon OOB have a distinct feeling, and usually quite early on, of being different from other people. This can be a more “positive” type of difference (such as being some sort of visionary genuis and using this ability towards bettering the world somehow), or a more “negative” type of difference (such as someone who doesn’t give a fuck about any laws that are set up in society, and breaks them every chance they get). A lot of the time, the OOB Moon person will be a little of both options above. Either way, or any way, this distinct feeling of being “different” can cause the person to feel some very intense loneliness at times, while other times they may fully delight in this feeling of being different from the masses.
*I put positive and negative in quotes above because depending on the way you personally feel about those examples in question will depend on if you think they’re positive or negative.

Another common theme with the Out of Bounds Moon tends to be a sensitivity that runs deep to their very core (and very big emotions and feelings), though the outside world may not ever know or realize this about these people. They are deeply emotional (even in the less traditionally emotional Moon Signs of Virgo, Aquarius, and Capricorn), and they know this about themselves and all the vulnerability that can come with it. While vulnerable, some people with the OOB Moon will embrace this vulnerability easily, while others will try to stuff it away in a place that no one else can reach it. It does tend to be sensed in some way by other people and by the world, even if the person has tried their best to hide it away. This can cause the OOB Moon native to be left wide open for people to mercilessly walk all over and all across any personal boundaries they try to set up. This isn’t always meant in an intrusive way by the person walking all over the boundaries of those with the OOB Moon; the person in question may really just sense the OOB person’s vulnerability and want to be of help. Though, there are those people who don’t necessarily have the best interest of the OOB Moon person at heart while walking all over their boundaries. They may be trying to find some weakness to exploit, or have some other nefarious reason for their actions. Luckily, being massively intuitive is also a card that the OOB Moon person has in their back pocket and they are usually able to tell (or feel) the difference between such people. Not only intuitive, these people seem to have some kind of link to the subconscious/unconscious mind (whether they realize this or not), as well as being highly empathetic beings.

Since boundaries were mentioned in the paragraph above, these people tend to be able to shatter boundaries themselves. Though this isn’t usually in an intrusive way of getting into the personal business of other people/walking all over personal boundaries, but more of a way that they don’t see universal boundaries (and norms) in the same way as other people. This can be seen in the OOB moon person shattering the boundaries of traditional society and thought; they can been found talking about things that don’t typically get discussed openly in public, to thinking about the “impossible” and making it possible, to being their different or “weird” selves in ‘out in the wild’, to completely shattering societal conventions in favor of living lawlessly (and this can be found in the friendly type lawless person all the way over to the sociopathic criminal). Regardless of the personality here, there is probably a different sort of code that these people live by…..which is how we end up with the visionary genius, the weirdo, the sensitive empath, and the sociopathic criminal all as possible outcomes here (among other possibilities). All of these people tend to view the world differently than other people, and thus their morals and ethics will be colored by how they view the world (and vice versa). To see what sort of code the OOB Moon person lives by, you would want to look at the sign the OOB Moon falls in, the house in which is resides, and any aspects made to the Moon.

I could see the Out of Bounds Moon as possibly manifesting as a sort of extreme depending on the sign the Moon falls in. For example, since there is something very Uranian/Aquarian about the OOB Moon anyway, I’d imagine that the person with an OOB Moon in Aquarius would probably become even more visionary in their thoughts and probably quite intuitive and spiritual (since Aquarius is a universal sign), and using this for the good. Someone who’s easily able to connect with the collective on a subconscious/unconscious level and in a very humanitarian way. I could also see the pendulum swinging in the opposite direction; someone who almost goes “mad” from all of their visionary thought, or someone who says “fuck this” to society and when doing this leaves the concept of “humanity” behind…either by way of walking away from society entirely and living out in the woods in a Unibomber-esque fashion, or just really not giving a fuck about society in general and the impact that they have on it.

As someone with their Moon in Capricorn Out of Bounds Moon, I’d love to hear any personal experience of having one from anyone reading this. Let’s discuss! 🙂

For furthering your reading pleasure, the first post in this series on Out of Bounds Planets can be found here:
Introduction to Out of Bounds Planets